National Anarchists - Not welcome here (Newbie Issues)
» Are National "Anarchists" welcome here or am I wasting my time?
I can only speak for the Anarchist International in this case. We don't wish national "anarchists" welcome here:
FC 55 ETC TERRORISM - BROWN CARD
BROWN CARDS TO THE UNABOMBER,.. ETC.
The "FC 55", "Freedom Club - 55", called Unabomber by FBI, has notoriously been mixing up anarchy etc., with chaos, terrorism and similar authoritarian tendencies, since the new nazi wave started in the seventies. The Unabomber (Theodore Kaczynski) is a psychopathic killer and FC 55 also is a +3 code for IF 88, i.e. International Fascists, Hail Hitler, as in Zorn 88.
The fascist tactic of creating chaos (ochlarchy = mob rule broadly defined), falsely naming it "anarchy", i.e. "libertarian" or "freiheitliches" etc., and (later) call for the "strong man", is internationally well known. Among other cases, in Norway the DKP, promoting "anarchy" with fascist methods, and Fr.p may be mentioned; in Germany FAP, RAF (Baader Meinhof); Greece the MK & Enraged Wolves, Autonomous Cells of Rebel Action, Anarchist Liberation Brigade, Overthrow Anarchist Faction, May 15, Brass Knuckle Anarchist Punks, Anarchist Group of Virona, Last Generation, Anarchist Faction, Uncontrolled Rage, Children of Fire, Anti-Establishment Nucleus, Anarchist Struggle, Anarchists' Attack Group (AAG), Burning Path (Flegomeno Monopati), Anarchist Street Patrol, 21 June, Anti-Statist Justice (Antistatlig rättvisa); France The Group Bakounine Gdansk Paris Guatemala Salvador (GBGPSG), Action Directe International (ADi), Action Directe; Italy Sardinian Autonomy Movement (MAS), Solidarieta Internazionale, Sinistra Ante Parlamentare, Informal Anarchist Federation (Federazione Anarchia Informale), Fronte Rivoluzionario del Comunismo (FRC), Cooperative of Hand-Made Fire and Related Items (Cooperativa Artigiana Fuoco e Affini), Proletarian Nuclei for Communism (Nuclei Proletari per Comunismo NPC), The Five C's, Brigata XX Luglio, Brigata Arrabbiata, Red Brigades (Brigate Rosse); Spain Los Anarquistas; Austria - Freiheitliches Partei of Jürg Haider; Sweden the "olympian bomber" and Frihetsfronten, sometimes called "anarcho"-capitalists i.e. extreme free marketers. "Anarcho"-capitalism, i.e. anarcho-plutarchy, a contradiction, "insurrectional anarchism", i.e. terrorism; "Anarcho"-nationalists, i.e. neonazis, at Internet; USA John Zerzan, Daniel Quinn, and ELF - primitivism and neo-ludditisme; Anarho-sindikalisticka inicijativa et. al. from the ex-Yugoslavian region, a.s.o. These things are occurring several places in Europe, USA, etc. Brown terror, sometimes with a dash of red or blue (or green), is neither "freiheitliches" nor "anarchistisch". "Anarchist" ideals or aims, combined with authoritarian methods, are marxism, fascism or liberalism on the economic-political map, and are thus not anarchism or anarchist. Even Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, had vague "anarchist" or "classless" ideals - like a "pie in the sky", but they were not libertarian or anarchists. The fight aginst fascism starts with the fight against marxism.
It is not the outspoken aim that counts. The real aim is the consequences of the use of the means involved, not some ideological manifesto with good intentions. Aims in ideological manifestos may be "anticapitalist", "anti-imperialist", "antistatist", "antifascist", "antipower", "antihierarchy", "antiauthoritarian", "anarchist" and similar with good intentions, but this is not relevant. A typically fascistoid statement used by ochlarchist, terrorist, infiltrators posing as "anarchists" is: "All those attacks which are carefully directed towards the structures of power, administration of USA, EU and NATO, as well as on the other hierarchic and authoritative structures within the society, under the presumption of wide support, can only be treated by definition of legitimate anti-fascists resistance." This authoritarian statement gives a false "legitimation" of terrorism, i.e. authoritarian means and methods. The real aims are always the consequences of the means that are used, and nothing else. A few pounds of dynamite will never change the powerstructure, as Kropotkin stated. Terrorism is an unfruitful departure from anarchism, not a part of it. Anarchism means anarchist, i.e. non-authoritarian, means and methods, as well as anarchist ends and aims. History and all relevant science, i.e. excluding materialistic and other dialectics, New Age, and similar quasi-science, demonstrate it is not possible to reach anarchist ends with authoritarian means. In general if the means involved are creating chaos (ochlarchy = mob rule broadly defined), it is promoting fascism or other dictatorship, calls for a "strong man", and not anarchism, i.e. real democracy.
The statements and manifesto of FC 55, say, defending Manuel Noriega, promoting "anarchist power" - a contradiction; reactionary, i.e. brown "environmentalism", neo-luddititism, etc., [as well as the statements of his later supporter John Zerzan, another brown environmentalist (primitivism)], are just some authoritarian nonsense, made up to promote chaos, and put the blame on anarchists/anarchism. To bow for this tyrant (arch) and print such nonsense, as the newspapers N.Y. Times and Washington Post have done initiated by the FBI; it just promotes more of the same, as well as international contempt!
As
a) the U.S. "counter terrorist expert" Yonah Alexander at CNN 27.7.1996 still promotes the Unabomber as "anarchist", and
b) 7.8.1996 Helle Hoyness (Dagbladet), Arve Henriksen (Aft.p. Aften), and "Radio- og TV-nyheter" (Arbeiderbladet), call such a manifesto "anarchist", commenting NRK's program about the Unabomber 21.00 - 7.8.1996 (a program which however did not mention anarchist and anarchism at all),
- they may share this Brown Card together with the responsible at Washington Post, N.Y. Times, FBI and the FC 55, released 20.9.1995, and updated several times.
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