1. Talk to your friends about Anarchy, send people to TOLFA, etc
2. For birthdays or Christmas, give books or movies that promote Anarchist ideas
3. Start or support local Meetups, help kickstart local projects through these Meetups
4. If you are a student, join Bureaucrash and support their campaigns
5. If you live in a big city, join black flagger groups
6. Tax resistance, and under-the-table work whenever possible
7. Non-cooperation with the State (police, licencing, etc)
ADDED: 8. Disentangling oneself from the system. Bartering, self-production, online loans, etc. Participating in black markets. Agorist counter-economics.

I was just reading over these 8 statements.

I've re-written them and added in another two.

1. Discuss Anarchism with anyone who shows interest
2. Distribute Anarchism material, be it essays, books, movies etc (doesn't necessarily have to be at Christmas)
3. Locate near-by Anarchists
4. Student Activism
5. Locate any Anarchist groups that operate within cities and offer assistence
6. Tax Resistance
8. Counter Economics - (this is the strongest of the lot in my opinion, it is really a very elegant theory)
9. Write (write opinion pieces for papers, in forums, blogs, get more information out there)
10. Become an informant, particularly if you work in sensitive areas of government. Information is priceless in this day and age.

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Maybe this is just a difference in style. I don't like to mince words and I
prefer to get to the point. You seem to prefer to elaborate considerably,
to be more precise. And that's fine, but it's just hard for me to read
personally. My philosophy is- if you have something to say, then get to the
point.
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Anyone,

Now, strangely enough, the ‘point’ has moved to editorial comments and narration?

The new direction looks like another example of projection and ‘shoot the messenger’. If you fail to understand the suggestions (stop feeding the state and make power at home) as being on topic, simple, doable, reasonable, practical examples, then, ignore them eh?

What gives on the continued focus upon one of the forum members and that individuals, ahhhh, ‘character’?

What is he being accused of now?

Mincing words

Is that just my imagination or was it an attack by innuendo?

Again –

Stop feeding the state by severing the connection to the state which is monetary currency. I can imagine that a huge part of the problem, for some, with this idea is the certain knowledge that the STATE is disguised behind the banner of a Limited Liability Corporation or visa versa. Did I mince those words?

The connection between the Powerful ones injuring the innocent people and the innocent people is currency and that currency includes these words right here on this forum.

When people pretend to not know that the connection exists, then, they resort to attacking people – on purpose.

Why ask a question if the intent is to discredit the people offering an answer?

Answer (of many possible answers):

The idea, in the first place, was to discredit people. It is called: phishing and trolling and otherwise falsifying what would otherwise be a mutually beneficial (equitable) transfer of information (absent the obvious intent to injure – on purpose).

So what is the ‘official’ score card according to the judge in this case?

Where is that list of things to do according to anyone having the ‘better’ list at this time?

Mine remains to be:

Stop feeding the criminals (State or Limited Liability Corporation)

Produce the POWER to accomplish #1

The third option relies upon something called equity. You may not be familiar with the term. You may be intimately familiar with the term and merely wish to ignore or discredit IT.

Good luck and if your editorial comments continue I’m going to ask why you do it and even what is your pay off?

Pro-bono editing work?

Note: I’m not buying.

» TOLFA is a project run by my friend Jim Davies that aims to educate the
» American people about anarchism.

I had a good chuckle reading that site. It doesn't seem to amount to anything more than a series of "I'm right, you're wrong" arguments.

» After all, brevity is the soul of wit.

But, if I may be the "Devil's Advocate," the devil is in the details. ;)

» Maybe this is just a difference in style. I don't like to mince words and I
» prefer to get to the point. You seem to prefer to elaborate considerably,
» to be more precise. And that's fine, but it's just hard for me to read
» personally. My philosophy is- if you have something to say, then get to the
» point.

After all, brevity is the soul of wit.

Maybe this is just a difference in style. I don't like to mince words and I prefer to get to the point. You seem to prefer to elaborate considerably, to be more precise. And that's fine, but it's just hard for me to read personally. My philosophy is- if you have something to say, then get to the point.

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What the fuck is wrong with you?
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How is asking a question twisted into 'being offensive'? If you ask me if I want a pacifier I will answer no thanks. I'd rather have my question answered. You appear, and you can correct any error on my part (or accuse me of 'being offensive' again - whatever you wish), you appear to want something specific yet you appear not to want something specific. You appear to want something comforting and secure so long as you don't have to actually do anything. That is how your responses appear to me - honestly.

You can do anything you want right now and one of the things you can do right now is figure out how to disconnect the flow of earnings (purchasing power) from you to The State. A suggestion that nulifies my suggestion because 'it' requires too many people or too much organization or too much effort or isn't possible or whatever appears to dodge the answer given.

I offered an answer to your question and YOU can do something unique to your situation without involving anyone else except the very next person who receives your earnings (purchasing power) had you not avoided transferring it.

See?

The answer doesn’t necessarily make anyone feel better and the criminals who operate the organized crime ring (The State) count on that fact - all the way to the bank.

You can repeat how you don't want a pacifier and you can repeat how answers to your question offend you and you can repeat sending earnings (purchasing power) to criminals, or, you can do something else.

Let me know, if you wish, if you figure out how to accomplish step one.

Step 1

Don't feed The State

Step 2 is produce more power at home.

The cart may be in front of the horse if you do not have the power to realize the need to do step one?

That question mark is there for a reason and the reason isn't to offend you.

I understand the basic principle, all I'm saying is that your advice can't be followed right now (you need a big group, and so on), and I'm looking for things that people can do right now.

And there's no need to be fucking offensive about it and treat me like a child. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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That sounds great (although I couldn't really follow), but I'm looking for
things that people can do right now. Perhaps that could be part of the
group projects part.
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So you want a pacifier?

What do you fail to follow?

The most basic connection between victims and organized crime is THE CONNECTION which is THE CURRENCY.

Stop using it. Use something better. Is this difficult to understand? If so, then, you have found the problem and the direction to proceed.

If you want a pacifier, then, SEE THE STATE (they give them out for free).

That sounds great (although I couldn't really follow), but I'm looking for things that people can do right now. Perhaps that could be part of the group projects part.

The most important thing people can do is to live as autonomously as possible. As Paul Goodman said, we should all strive to live our lives as if the state doesn't exist. While this is obviously impossible, it is at least something we should try to do as much as possible.

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I really appreciate the discussion that has blossomed on this topic, but no
one seems to be posting further suggestions. Does anyone have any points I
could add to my list?
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Become more power independent. If you depend upon the power of the state (organized crime) for money, then, you are taxed. That is one of the most insidious connections between investors who profit from the state and their victims.

I think the inevitable conclusion always returns to a need for more power controlled by the individual and this naturally arrives at the obvious need to associate with like minded individuals.

There are two then:

Become independent of State currency and that process inevitably requires an association of like minded individuals having coincidental interests in volunteering to combine power equitably.

How about a practical example?

How many people owe mortgage principle and interest denominated in state currency?

How quickly could a volunteer association of mutually interested people eliminate their ‘debt’ to The State by creating a mutual fund to pay off their State denominated mortgages and avoid the high costs of interest?

That is one connection to the state (organized crime) where people empower The State unknowingly or reluctantly (because there isn’t a method of eliminating that connection).

How about step by step?

The ‘collective’ group can buy or create an internal currency. For the Gold Bugs we can imagine using current State dollars (Euros or whatever) to buy an E-Gold account (or buy Gold coins or buy Gold and make coins). The E-Gold account is easier to work but may not be a secure as having the actual gold on hand (then again it may be less secure having the gold on hand). Anyway we need to do some numbers.

Suppose 100 people (or 1 million) start the venture. Each of the 100 people manages to scrape together 1000 dollars plus 100 dollars a month (perhaps they buy Solar Panels on their existing houses and send the savings to the mutual mortgage interest removal association).

The idea is to work the numbers. Each person will gain an equitable share in the ‘profits’ as the investment begins to eliminate mortgage interest. The fund begins at 100,000 dollars plus 1000 dollars per month to hire new home constructions based upon a more practical housing design (get houses built out of the jurisdiction of ‘code enforcement’ or get the ‘legal’ licenses). Houses are constructed using the latest energy savings technology and they will be Solar/Wind/Hydrogen powered and each house ends up with two electric cars.

When the first person (first come first serve or some other method of equitable arrangement) moves into the new home his ‘savings’ lowers everyone else’s monthly payment OR accelerates the next house built.

See this?

Example:

Each person in the venture has a monthly cost going out to mortgage, mortgage interest, an electric bill, a natural gas bill, and a transportation fuel cost.

Add those up.

1000 for the monthly mortgage interest (not much principle if the loan is new).

100 for the electric bill

Add in the natural gas and an ‘average’ gasoline bill and (just to round things off) suppose the total comes to 2,000 per month ‘average’ for each person having a stake in the venture (each person gains a percentage based upon his stake).

The first person to take possession (control) of the new home does not have a mortgage/principle/electric/natural gas/gasoline Cost going OUTSIDE the venture.

That person can either pay down his own costs as a percentage of the whole venture (building the second house) or keep paying the ‘costs’ to the venture and increase the speed (because less money is going OUTSIDE and more money is INVESTED inside) of building the next house or the next two houses.

The second person to be FREE can do the same thing – pay down the costs of participation or accelerate the rate of independence as more houses are built (more electric cars are purchased and more Solar Panel/Wind generator/hydrogen producers are installed.

Now suppose 50 houses are built and 50 people are still ‘hooked’ into The System of ‘organized crime’ or, if you prefer, 50 people remain investing in The State while 50 have cut that connection.

Now that 2,000 per month ‘cost’ by 50 to get a total of the INTERNAL currency flow that no longer goes OUTSIDE the venture or, if you prefer, the mortgage interest payoff mutual association.

I’ll do the math for you.

100,000 per month is the mathematical answer to the question asking how much ‘profit’ the equitable association makes when 50 members are power independent and the other 50 are not yet power independent.

What was the cost of starting up the venture?

What is the cost of not starting up the venture?

That is easy; add your rent, or mortgage, to your electric and natural gas bill and then add the cost of gasoline (including all the costs of acquiring and utilizing gasoline made from oil).

» That's point number 1.

My mistake. I'll think it over and if I come up with something I'll post it here.

That's point number 1.

» I really appreciate the discussion that has blossomed on this topic, but no
» one seems to be posting further suggestions. Does anyone have any points I
» could add to my list?

Why not help introduce people to Anarchism? Or at least discuss issues from an Anarchist perspective. At least this way there's more of a chance our perspective is going to get out there.

I really appreciate the discussion that has blossomed on this topic, but no one seems to be posting further suggestions. Does anyone have any points I could add to my list?

» i already gave you one example of what one could do. use your
» imagination.

I'm not asking you about my imagination, I'm asking about what's tried and true. I want to get more ideas. If I just wanted to use my imagination, I wouldn't have posted now would I?

» also, originally i was only stating that buying from counter economies and
» working under the table could be separate examples in your list in
» opposition to your theory that one example fit inside the other. i wanted
» buying to be included, not all this other bullshit.

Why shouldn't they be included on the same point? I don't really see the difference.

» » I read an article once which encouraged people to "stop traffic":
» » basically, to commit random acts against state property, like
» survelliance
» » cameras, government buildings, etc. to piss the government off.
»
» what publication was the article published in?

I can't remember. I've been trying to find it, I think it was posted on strike the root a while ago.

Its basic point was that since major upheavel was not in the forseeable future, we should just do everything in our power to fuck with, torment, and screw with the state and its mechanisms at every possible opportunity. They had some really good examples of what you could do, I wish I remembered where the article was....

» I read an article once which encouraged people to "stop traffic":
» basically, to commit random acts against state property, like survelliance
» cameras, government buildings, etc. to piss the government off.

what publication was the article published in?

» i agree with you almost completely. i do, however, feel it is necessary to
» take some of the power they stole and return it to where it belongs. i'm
» not stating this is for everyone, which is why i didn't want to delve into
» it with francois. keeping power from entering the state originally is often
» the better method and the method most can readily embrace.

I used to think committing crimes against the state was entirely pointless, but now I realize for a lot of people thats how they vent their frusteration. Not exactly a productive way, necessarily, but who am I to judge.

I read an article once which encouraged people to "stop traffic": basically, to commit random acts against state property, like survelliance cameras, government buildings, etc. to piss the government off.